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    • AMS launches forged internals for the Infiniti Q50/Q60 VR30DDTT motor - Manley pistons and rods

      AMS is not letting up in their push of the VR30DDTT engine platform. As you might recall, they were the first to get the platform into the 10's in the 1/4 mile. It seems they are planning on taking things quite a bit further.


      That is where the forged internals come into play. AMS has forged pistons and rods from Manley ready to go:

      Quote Originally Posted by AMS
      Manley Performance’s Q60 and Q50 VR30 Pro Series I-Beam Turbo Tuff Rods are forged from 4340 aircraft quality vacuum degassed material. After the machining is complete the Pro Series I-Beam Turbo Tuff Rods are shot peened to a MIL specification and 100% individually magnafluxed.

      Manley Performance’s Q60 and Q50 VR30 Pro Series I-Beam Turbo Tuff Rods are specifically designed to handle high horsepower applications when using turbos and/or nitrous. The flywheel horsepower rating for the 4340 I-Beam Turbo Tuff Rods in a 6 cylinder application is +1,250 HP!*

      Manley Platinum Series Lightweight Pistons are machined of high strength 2618 material. Each design is lightweight yet robust enough to deliver long service life. Offset wrist pin design is utilized for quiet start-ups. Perfect ring groove to skirt squareness is achieved through our unique “one fixturing” manufacturing method that assures maximum horsepower. All of our VR30DDTT pistons come with moly coated skirts, round wire locks, and premium steel top ring with napier second sets from Total Seal are included. The 9310 material in our pins feature super high quality, low carbon 59-63 Rockwell C case hardened steel, its ground to the finest .025 Ra finish or better, for use in applications that require the highest surface and core strength, excellent to use in the highest stress applications when combined with shock and impact loads, such as nitrous and turbo systems. The competition? They use inferior .150″ wall 5115 pins and uncoated skirts.
      So far nobody has taxed the stock internals but hopefully some big turbo builds with some big power are coming up shortly and AMS will have the rods and pistons covered.










      This article was originally published in forum thread: AMS launches forged internals for the Infiniti Q50/Q60 VR30DDTT motor - Manley pistons and rods started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 18 Comments
      1. Bowser330's Avatar
        Bowser330 -
        transmission is going to be the weak link on this car....we need the forums to scour the web to find information on the transmission...what is the standard torque rating? I hear its physically the same as the old 7 speed G37 transmission, just reprogrammed.

        What upgrades are available? GTM makes a valvebody, is that and a cooler enough to get by with an extra 200ftlbs of torque?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Bowser330 Click here to enlarge
        transmission is going to be the weak link on this car....we need the forums to scour the web to find information on the transmission...what is the standard torque rating? I hear its physically the same as the old 7 speed G37 transmission, just reprogrammed.

        What upgrades are available? GTM makes a valvebody, is that and a cooler enough to get by with an extra 200ftlbs of torque?
        I wish I knew. I don't know anything about this trans but AMS will likely have that aspect covered too.
      1. Bowser330's Avatar
        Bowser330 -
        Well it turns out GTM was scamming people and not managing their business so they were forced to close down. Enthusiasts are now going to level 10 for transmission upgrades. That place is pretty hit or miss in the bmw community. I wonder what ams is going to come up with or use on their shop car?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Bowser330 Click here to enlarge
        I wonder what ams is going to come up with or use on their shop car?
        Let's ask. @Michael@alpha
      1. Michael@alpha's Avatar
        Michael@alpha -
        Hey Guys, We just got our transmission back from Level 10. I have a shot of it but can't post photos here. You might be interested in seeing it.

        Interestingly enough, we did not have a single problem with the stock transmission with our Q60 making over 500 HP and running 10's. We literally ran 10's ten times in a row. See our blog. The only weak link we have encountered in the drivetrain was the stock driveshaft. We addressed that issue. Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Michael@alpha Click here to enlarge
        Hey Guys, We just got our transmission back from Level 10. I have a shot of it but can't post photos here. You might be interested in seeing it.
        Guest vendors can not post photos to prevent free advertising. Nothing personal just protecting our vendors.

        You can e-mail me photos if you like and I'll post them.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Michael@alpha Click here to enlarge
        Interestingly enough, we did not have a single problem with the stock transmission with our Q60 making over 500 HP and running 10's.
        Why send it to Level 10 then? What did Level 10 do with it?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Here is a pic of the trans:

        Click here to enlarge
      1. Michael@alpha's Avatar
        Michael@alpha -
        That is a good question. We had two camps; one side wanted to run it until we broke it collecting valuable data for the VR30 community. The other side wanted to upgrade it with Level 10 so we could eliminate it as a potential problem. Level 10 beefed it up for us because we are not a transmission company. We use Shep Trans for all of our GTR's because they are experts in that field.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Michael@alpha Click here to enlarge
        The other side wanted to upgrade it with Level 10 so we could eliminate it as a potential problem. Level 10 beefed it up for us because we are not a transmission company.
        I see the potential predicament but since you are going with upgraded internals I assume more power is on the way?

        Any idea what Level 10 did or ballpark how much stronger the trans is?
      1. Michael@alpha's Avatar
        Michael@alpha -
        Thank you for posting the photo. Click here to enlarge

        Level 10 upgraded the transmission to hold 1000 HP.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Michael@alpha Click here to enlarge
        Level 10 upgraded the transmission to hold 1000 HP.
        Color me skeptical but I'm sure you guys will put it to the test.
      1. Bowser330's Avatar
        Bowser330 -
        http://www.levelten.com

        they have many offerings all saying “bulletproof”

        i hope it it is because AMS doesn’t mess around
      1. Michael@alpha's Avatar
        Michael@alpha -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Bowser330 Click here to enlarge

        they have many offerings all saying “bulletproof”

        i hope it it is because AMS doesn’t mess around
        We will see. Click here to enlarge
      1. jyamona's Avatar
        jyamona -
        Their "1000hp" N54 trans was a complete POS, so I wouldn't hold out much hope for this.
      1. subaru335i's Avatar
        subaru335i -
        Yeah level 10 is basically a joke around here...good luck AMS but I would start looking for other transmission solutions if I were you.
      1. Bowser330's Avatar
        Bowser330 -
        The transmission is going to be the Achilles heel of the q50

        if you look at all of the heavily modded automatic cars, they are mostly dct or they are an American transmission that has plenty of support from builders/shops

        why doesn’t the n54 have more transmission support? The 335i came out in 2007 and just now 10yrs later people are testing American trans swaps....
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Bowser330 Click here to enlarge
        why doesn’t the n54 have more transmission support? The 335i came out in 2007 and just now 10yrs later people are testing American trans swaps....
        It has a DCT but there's more autos out there and most don't want to pay to do a swap and do it right.

        The N54 is just an old platform now.