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    • Valentine One updates radar detector to second generation - V1 Gen 2

      The Valentine 1 is well known in the industry but seemingly did not evolve all that much. People love the arrows showing where a threat is coming from but law enforcement techniques and technology evolve as well meaning an update to the V1 was due.


      So what is new?

      New, New, New: Designed for absolute range superiority, V1 Gen2 has all-new and patented electronics with SAW D2L power, a technique from military radars.
      *Surface-Acoustic-Wave Dispersive-Delay-Line

      Location, Location, Location: The ingenious Radar Locator points to the threat Ahead, Beside or Behind. We created direction-finding with the original V1; now V1 Gen2 extends that know-how. It scans all around your car; a radar antenna and a laser eye look forward, another antenna-eye set looks through the rear glass.
      New: All-new electronics in a new magnesium case.
      New: Patented SAW D2L jumps the scan-rate a hundred-fold.
      New: LNA technology boosts range, radically improves stealth.
      New: K-Verifier blocks nearly all K-band alarms from lane-change and crash-prevention radars.
      New: Built-in Bluetooth smartphone connection.

      V1 Gen2 brings new detection tools
      New LNA technology: The only way to extend range is to detect ever weaker signals. Think of LNA as a signal magnifier.

      LNA has another benefitóit acts as a one-way valve, trapping LO output before it escapes V1 Gen2ís magnesium case. Thatís the key to stealth. V1 Gen2 is practically undetectable.

      New, and patented, SAW D2L: Detecting more radars adds exponentially to data flow. SAW D2L jumps the processing rate more than a hundred times, enabling V1 Gen2 to quickly sort speed-trap radar signals from todayís glut of lane-change and crash-prevention radars.

      Range superiority
      LNAís faint-signal acquisition feeding the high-rate analysis of SAW D2L adds up to a breakthrough in radar early warning. The range increase on Ka band is especially dramatic. Our new K-Verifier weeds out unwanted K alerts.


      That all sounds great if it works as advertised. Hopefully the V1 gen 2 will be put up against its competition in an independent test shortly.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: Valentine One updates radar detector to second generation - V1 Gen 2 started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 36 Comments
      1. nbrigdan's Avatar
        nbrigdan -
        Does it detect MRCD (as commonly used by photo radar)? Also a false positives lockout would be nice. If it has both and if the price is reasonable, would be a great option.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nbrigdan Click here to enlarge
        Does it detect MRCD (as commonly used by photo radar)? Also a false positives lockout would be nice. If it has both and if the price is reasonable, would be a great option.
        I have no idea but it's $499.
      1. nbrigdan's Avatar
        nbrigdan -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I have no idea but it's $499.
        Well that price certainly is reasonable.
      1. F87Source's Avatar
        F87Source -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nbrigdan Click here to enlarge
        Does it detect MRCD (as commonly used by photo radar)? Also a false positives lockout would be nice. If it has both and if the price is reasonable, would be a great option.
        No it doesn't.

        No lock outs unless you use the v1 g2 with a cell phone app like jbv1.

        It will still false alert but the filters are still better.

        Radenso's artificial intelligence radar detector theia will be out soon and that will 100% eliminate any false alerts since it'll be able to differentiate between false alert radio wave patterns vs. legitimate radar band patterns. Check out their YouTube videos or the rdf forum for more info.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by F87Source Click here to enlarge
        Radenso's artificial intelligence radar detector theia will be out soon and that will 100% eliminate any false alerts since it'll be able to differentiate between false alert radio wave patterns vs. legitimate radar band patterns. Check out their YouTube videos or the rdf forum for more info.
        Never heard of this. I'll check out Youtube.
      1. richpike's Avatar
        richpike -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Never heard of this. I'll check out Youtube.
        Nice. I’m going to check this out too.

        -Rich
      1. F87Source's Avatar
        F87Source -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Never heard of this. I'll check out Youtube.
        Yeah radenso has been killing it with their detectors, I've been following a whole bunch of counter measures available on RDF such as anti laser priority's laser jammers, TMG, radenso, Uniden etc.

        But theia will set the whole radar detector game on its head once they launch. It will be revolutionary and I doubt anything will be able to keep up once they have their ai preventing any false alerts from occuring.

        Otherwise radenso has their own youtube channel and they are really active on rdf, the owner jon used to have an m2 as well which was awesome.
      1. nbrigdan's Avatar
        nbrigdan -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by F87Source Click here to enlarge
        Radenso's artificial intelligence radar detector theia will be out soon and that will 100% eliminate any false alerts since it'll be able to differentiate between false alert radio wave patterns vs. legitimate radar band patterns. Check out their YouTube videos or the rdf forum for more info.
        That's really cool. Radenso introduced MRCD so they are close to my heart. That will likely be my next detector.
      1. F87Source's Avatar
        F87Source -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nbrigdan Click here to enlarge
        That's really cool. Radenso introduced MRCD so they are close to my heart. That will likely be my next detector.
        They talked about mrcd but didn't introduce it. The internation redline from escort was able to detect mrcd and mrct before radenso released the pro m which was able to detect mrcd.
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        What is mrcd?
      1. nbrigdan's Avatar
        nbrigdan -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by F87Source Click here to enlarge
        They talked about mrcd but didn't introduce it. The internation redline from escort was able to detect mrcd and mrct before radenso released the pro m which was able to detect mrcd.
        My understanding was that they were the first ones to detect it and simultaneously properly filter against false alerts, however I'm definitely not as informed on the topic as you for sure.
      1. F87Source's Avatar
        F87Source -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky2 Click here to enlarge
        What is mrcd?
        A very low frequency and low power radar band that is out of the detection range of most detectors. It is also so low powered most detectors can't detect it. Most of Americans don't need to worry about it now since it's predominantly in Canada, but it is starting to show up in the US, iirc NY is getting it.

        The pro m currently has the best mrcd performance and actually has ramp up. Unlike the redline ex which is full tilt and scares the $#@! out of you.
      1. F87Source's Avatar
        F87Source -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nbrigdan Click here to enlarge
        My understanding was that they were the first ones to detect it and simultaneously properly filter against false alerts, however I'm definitely not as informed on the topic as you for sure.
        Yes they had the best detection and filtering, but not the first to detect it.
      1. F87Source's Avatar
        F87Source -
        Redflex is 1,000X worse than MRCD because it's so low powered you can pass by and get no detection, either because the detector isn't sensitive enough or because the filters block it out. Theia should solve this issue to a degree with the filtering, since it won't have filters as the AI eliminates the need for it, therefore it can run full sensitivity all the time. But even then I don't know how well it'll do.

        The problem with redflex is it originated in the USA, as opposed to MRCD and it coming from Europe, so you guys in the US have alot of it. Canada and NZ and AUS has alot of it as well.
      1. richpike's Avatar
        richpike -
        Great thread. I’m not going to lie - loved Valentine 15years ago, but as everyone has mentioned, they seem so far behind the curve compared to Uniden, Radenso, etc. It wouldn’t even be in my top 3 to look at today. Even with this new model.

        -Rich
      1. F87Source's Avatar
        F87Source -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by richpike Click here to enlarge
        Great thread. I’m not going to lie - loved Valentine 15years ago, but as everyone has mentioned, they seem so far behind the curve compared to Uniden, Radenso, etc. It wouldn’t even be in my top 3 to look at today. Even with this new model.

        -Rich
        It's still really really good if you're willing to connect it to a phone, then enthusiasts love it because that provides so much more data and even better auto lock outs than escort.

        The range on the new V1 g2 is almost as good as the uniden r7, and the false alert filtering seems even better than the radenso pro m, and as afformentioned the lock outs are even better than escort if you pair it with a phone.

        The cons are: no frequency display unless you pair it with a phone, extremely complex settings menus unless you pair with a phone, no lock outs unless you pair it with a phone, and no mrcd/mrct support as of yet.

        Otherwise it is still a great detector, just no as good for the people that aren't radar detector enthusiasts.
      1. nbrigdan's Avatar
        nbrigdan -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by F87Source Click here to enlarge
        Otherwise it is still a great detector, just no as good for the people that aren't radar detector enthusiasts.
        I'm just glad we have one on the site to enlighten us, much appreciated honestly Click here to enlarge
      1. F87Source's Avatar
        F87Source -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nbrigdan Click here to enlarge
        I'm just glad we have one on the site to enlighten us, much appreciated honestly Click here to enlarge
        Lol thanks, but I'm no expert, I know enough to make a decision that would best fit my needs, and I know how to properly use it so maybe intermediate range on the rdf scale of expertise. Radar detectors to me are just a small subset of my car modding hobby, whereas the guys on rdf have this as their entire hobby. So for the best advice you'll want to go there where there are extensive testing results and an abundance of data. Like those guys on rdf are amazing in regards to the quality of testing and results they post on different products.
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        Checked out Radenso when they have a cool stealth setup but it's $1850. Their laser protection is $1100 on top of that.

        So $3k plus install?
      1. F87Source's Avatar
        F87Source -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky2 Click here to enlarge
        Checked out Radenso when they have a cool stealth setup but it's $1850. Their laser protection is $1100 on top of that.
        So $3k plus install?
        RCM? Yeah that'll be really nice in your 911 since there are installers that can hide the controller in the center ash tray. It can link to the ALP on top of that which will give you laser protection. But make sure you know how to properly use a radar detector and laser jammer otherwise you'll either still get caught with radar if you don't have a "rabbit" and you can get your car impounded if you don't jtk if encountering laser.


        But sticky, I'd recommend holding off for a bit till theia comes out, it'll be a game changer.

        Might be more if you want rear laser protection too.