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    • 2020 MKV Supra lap test around the Hockenheim GP - Equal to 718 Boxster

      You will have to decide on your own whether you consider this 1:58.80 lap time around the Hockenheim GP for the new 2020 Toyota impressive or not. It does match the Porsche 718 Boxster although the Boxster has a much less powerful 2.0 four-cylinder.


      The Boxster is lighter and mid-engine though although power pays dividends on the Hockenheim GP course which shows with the Lamborghini Urus beating it. The 718 GTS is also quicker as is the BMW F87 M2 Competition.

      Overall, it is decent performance but nothing special in today's performance climate especially considering the Supra was on Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires.

      69. Porsche 911 Carrera S Cabrio Uwe Sener 1:55.00 450 / 1658
      70. Honda NSX (Mk II) unknown 1:55.30 581 / 1766
      71. Corvette Grand Sport Uwe Sener 1:55.30 466 / 1583
      72. Mercedes-Benz AMG GT S Uwe Sener 1:55.40 522 / 1617
      73. BMW M5 Competition (F90) Uwe Sener 1:55.60 626 / 1896
      74. KTM X-Bow R Horst von Saurma 1:56.00 304 / 855
      75. Porsche 718 Cayman GTS Uwe Sener 1:56.00 365 / 1402
      76. Porsche 911 GT3 (997) unknown 1:56.41 415 / 1395
      77. BMW M850i (G15) Uwe Sener 1:56.60 530 / 1979
      78. Porsche 911 Carrera GTS unknown 1:56.90 430 / 1395
      79. Lamborghini Urus Uwe Sener 1:57.10 650 / 2277
      80. Porsche Cayman GT4 (981) unknown 1:57.40 385 / 1340
      81. Porsche 911 GT3 RS (997) unknown 1:57.44 415 / 1375
      82. Porsche 718 Boxster GTS Uwe Sener 1:57.70 365 / 1404
      83. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C6) unknown 1:57.90 512 / 1437
      84. Aston Martin Vantage Uwe Sener 1:57.90 510 / 1693
      85. BMW M2 Competition Uwe Sener 1:57.90 410 / 1620
      86. Mercedes-Benz C 63 AMG S Coupe Uwe Sener 1:58.20 510 / 1814
      87. Porsche 718 Boxster Uwe Sener 1:58.80 300 / 1379
      88. Porsche 911 GT3 RS (997) Felix Aretz 1:59.10 415 / 1375
      89. BMW Z4 M40i (G29) Uwe Sener 1:59.50 340 / 1578
      90. Ford Mustang Bullitt Uwe Sener 1:59.80 487 / 1748
      91. Chevrolet Camaro SS (Mk VI) Uwe Sener 1:59.90 453 / 1681
      92. Porsche Panamera GTS (Mk II) Uwe Sener 2:00.20 460 / 2117
      93. Audi R8 4.2 FSI Quattro (Mk I) unknown 2:00.65 420 / 1560


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      1. BLKROKT's Avatar
        BLKROKT -
        Iím not a fan of this car. With that said, itís within a second of some fairly serious and much higher hp cars - M2 Comp, Z06, C63S Coupe, Vantage. And itís faster than a 997 GT3 RS, which if you had told me before the test I would have said impossible. Hockenheim is a hp track. Thatís not so bad.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BLKROKT Click here to enlarge
        Iím not a fan of this car. With that said, itís within a second of some fairly serious and much higher hp cars - M2 Comp, Z06, C63S Coupe, Vantage. And itís faster than a 997 GT3 RS, which if you had told me before the test I would have said impossible. Hockenheim is a hp track. Thatís not so bad.
        You have to take the tires into account.

        Now way is this thing staying with a 997 GT3 RS.
      1. BLKROKT's Avatar
        BLKROKT -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        You have to take the tires into account.

        Now way is this thing staying with a 997 GT3 RS.
        Super Sports arenít some racing tire good for 5sec a lap over street tires. You can bet that the 997 GT3 RS was on something just as good if not better, even given the ~10yrs. Probably 1st-gen Cups. And the more recent C63S Coupe and M2 Comp laps were both done on Super Sports.

        I find it hard to believe too, but here we are.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BLKROKT Click here to enlarge
        Super Sports aren’t some racing tire good for 5sec a lap over street tires. You can bet that the 997 GT3 RS was on something just as good if not better, even given the ~10yrs. Probably 1st-gen Cups. And the more recent C63S Coupe and M2 Comp laps were both done on Super Sports.

        I find it hard to believe too, but here we are.
        The cars were tested on different days on different rubber maybe even different drivers.

        Seriously, no way this thing is hanging with a 997 GT3 RS.
      1. BLKROKT's Avatar
        BLKROKT -
        https://www.autoblog.com/2019/08/01/...-buttonwillow/

        New test at Buttonwillow. It shouldnít be this fast, but it is.

        Mike Chang, co-founder of Evasive Motorsports, wrangled the brand spanking new Toyota sports car and Formula Drift champion Daijiro ďDaiĒ Yoshihara, and brought them both to Buttonwillow Raceway in central California. With the drifter behind the wheel, the Supra clocked a 1:58.92 on the circuitís clockwise 13 configuration, the variant most hallowed by time attack fans.

        For context, a sub 2-minute lap time at Buttonwillow is considered very quick for a production car. The National Auto Sport Association (NASA) track record at Buttonwillow for a Spec Miata stands at 2:05.02. According to Fastestlaps.com, a 997 Porsche 911 GT3 ran a 2:01.50 on the circuit and a 997 Porsche 911 GT2 put down a 1:59.70. For those who prefer the English section of the SATs, that would mean the 2020 Toyota Supra is a full two seconds-plus quicker than the former naturally aspirated model and nearly a second faster than the turbocharged one.